The Podcast Effect: Implement, Learn, Teach, Repeat
Here’s something personal to me that I want to share. The podcast has two effects on my life. Number one: it’s education. The learn-teach-learn cycle makes me know the material better and keeps me constantly implementing. Number two: it creates a sense of urgency that’s both helpful and, at times, unhealthy. And I want to talk about both because they reveal something important about how Lean actually works versus how people talk about it.
And here’s the bottom line: critics don’t count. People implementing, learning, teaching, and sharing that’s real Lean.
The Pain of People Who Talk But Don’t Implement
Now, this is a little bit snarky and I don’t mean it to be because I really want to be a different person and a better person. But I wrote down a note called Show Me. And it was snarky because there’s lots of influencers. It’s so funny. There’s lots of people leading super groups or trying to lead super groups that have never legitimately been a super and run a job and are giving, being in superintendent panels or giving superintendent presentations or delivering superintendent training and they’ve never done that.
And so, when they’re talking about different things, I do appreciate anybody’s willingness to share until they start to tear down somebody else. And I think that, first of all, trying to tear down somebody else isn’t a good way to go about things. And tearing down the industry, tearing down somebody else is definitely not appropriate if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Another example is there’s lots of people weighing in on Lean and actually criticizing Lean. And all they’ve ever done is read books and been in a university class or as a professor. And so, the question is, and you can answer it for yourself, who would you rather trust? Somebody who’s been in the field for thirty years, actually doing the thing and implementing the things, or the person who read books and pontificated?
And that happens with social media influencers as well. So, I like to say, show me. And every time you dig into these folks, you go to their house and it’s nasty. You go to their car, it’s nasty. Their organization’s nasty. Their habits are just completely un-Lean. You find out they’ve never actually had field experience. They’ve never actually done it. And they’re literally just in it for fame or for finances.
Here’s the problem. These people criticize the builders who are actually implementing. They tear down the superintendents who are doing pull planning for the first time. They mock the foremen who are trying Takt and learning as they go. And they do it from the cheap seats. They’ve never run a job. They’ve never led a crew. They’ve never implemented a system. But they’ll write a critical post, record a snarky video, or give a lecture tearing down the people in the arena.
And my response is always the same: show me.
The Learn-Teach-Learn Cycle (Why the Podcast Works)
Let me talk about the education part, then I’ll talk about the sense of urgency. So, for me, in the industry, I’ve gone and tried to learn as much as I can and I’m constantly doing trainings or taking and implementing trainings. Then I implement it in the field, and when I was in operations, I would do it as a field leader. Now I do it with clients, or our entire team does it with clients.
And then I will feel passionate about a topic, talk about it on the podcast. And then once I talk about it on the podcast, something happens to my brain. I have it on recall and I know it better now. It’s like the teach-learn cycle.
And just so you all know, I do a lot of research for these topics. My delivery isn’t the best, so I’m not saying I’m good at podcasting, but the research behind the topic and the principles is intense. And when I’m going to a YouTube shoot, there’s a lot of preparation. I have to search, not I have to, I get to search what people are looking for on YouTube, go and look for associated topics, do the research, make sure the title is correct, then outline it, then deploy it. And it’s a whole process.
But it’s great for me because it’s like I’ve never stopped learning. And the learn-teach-learn is really, really beneficial.
Here’s why this matters. When you implement something, you learn it at one level. When you teach it, you learn it at a deeper level. You have to understand it well enough to explain it. You have to anticipate questions. You have to clarify what’s confusing. And that forces you to know the material better than if you just read about it or talked about it.
This is the podcast effect for me. I implement Lean in the field. I learn from the experience. I teach it on the podcast. And then I know it better. And I implement it again. And the cycle repeats. That’s real Lean. Not reading books and criticizing. Implementing, learning, teaching, repeating.
Show Me: The Response to Critics
So, my point there is that there’s a lot of people in it for fame and money. And my response would be, show me. Oh, you’re telling me CPM works? Show me. Oh, you can’t. You’re telling me Lean doesn’t work? Show me, even though there’s like hundreds of companies doing it with great success. Show me where you’ve done it and couldn’t do it. Oh, you haven’t done it? Okay. Show me, show me, show me.
And the problem is they’re not implementing. And so, I’m a bit critical about that. And so, when people like them criticize people like you who are doing your best to implement, did your pull plan work out great? Maybe not. Did your trade partner weekly tactical meeting work out great? Maybe not. But guess what you’re doing? You’re implementing. You are teaching. You are sharing. You are going and doing the hard things.
So, I will always contend that real Lean is people implementing, learning, teaching, and implementing. It’s not the critics. The critics don’t count.
Here’s what this means practically. If someone criticizes your pull plan, ask them: “Show me your pull plan.” If someone says Takt doesn’t work, ask them: “Show me where you implemented it and it failed.” If someone mocks your Lean journey, ask them: “Show me your Lean organization.” And if they can’t show you, their criticism doesn’t count. Because they’re in the cheap seats. They’re not in the arena.
The people who count are the people implementing. The superintendent trying pull planning for the first time. The foreman learning Takt on a live project. The PM struggling through lookahead planning. Those are the people doing real Lean. Not the critics. Not the influencers. Not the professors who’ve never run a job.
The Sense of Urgency (Helpful and Unhealthy)
Now, the second thing for the podcast effect to me is the sense of urgency it gives me. I’ll get three episodes behind, seven episodes behind, but I’m never off schedule as a whole. If you count up the days from today all the way back to when I started the podcast, any working days, and you count how many working days there are versus how many podcasts there are, you’ll see I haven’t missed.
And that has caused a sense of urgency for me that’s been a little bit unhealthy at times where I’m like, “Kate, I got to do a podcast.” And she’s like, “Do you?” And she’s nice about it. She’s like, “Do you? Or is that just a thought?” And in all actuality, a lot of times it’s just a thought. Like it’s just me having maybe a false sense of urgency. It’s just me pushing myself. It’s just me thinking something’s urgent when it’s not.
Now, it has helped me to keep on schedule and trying to take care of the audience. But the question here is, is there anything that you feel you have urgency with that actually isn’t urgent that is currently negatively impacting your life?
Here’s what I mean. The podcast creates urgency for me. And that urgency helps me stay consistent. But sometimes the urgency is false. It’s just a thought. It’s not real. And if I’m not careful, I let that false urgency drives me in unhealthy ways. I stress about recording when I don’t need to. I prioritize the podcast over things that actually matter more. And I create pressure that doesn’t need to exist.
So, the question for you is: what are you treating as urgent that isn’t? What are you stressing about that’s just a thought? What pressure are you creating that doesn’t need to exist? And can you let it go?
The Two Questions This Podcast Raises
So, the question for the first topic is: whatever you learn, are you trying your best to implement? If you are, you are acting and behaving Lean.
And the second one is: is there anything that you feel you have urgency with that actually isn’t urgent that is currently negatively impacting your life?
I want anything in your life that’s like this podcast to be something that helps you implement and learn and not something that needlessly drives you. And so that’s just something that I want to share. It’s none of my business either way how you do it, but I do care about you and I wanted to share it. So, this is just a little personal note.
Here are the two questions:
- Are you implementing what you learn? If yes, you’re doing real Lean. If no, you’re just consuming content.
- Are you creating false urgency that’s negatively impacting your life? If yes, let it go. If no, keep the healthy urgency that drives consistency.
Those are the two effects of the podcast for me. One is healthy: implement, learn, teach, repeat. One can be unhealthy: false urgency that drives unnecessary stress. And I want you to have the first without the second. If your project needs superintendent coaching, project support, or leadership development, Elevate Construction can help your field teams stabilize, schedule, and flow.
A Challenge for Builders
Here’s what I want you to do this week. First, ask yourself: am I implementing what I’m learning, or am I just consuming content? If you read a book on Lean, did you implement it? If you watched a video on Takt, did you try it? If you listened to a podcast on pull planning, did you run a session? Real Lean is implementing, learning, teaching, repeating. Not just reading and talking.
Second, ask yourself: am I creating false urgency? Am I stressing about things that aren’t actually urgent? Am I driving myself with thoughts instead of reality? And if you are, let it go. Keep the healthy urgency that drives consistency. Let go of the false urgency that drives unnecessary stress. As we say at Elevate, critics don’t count. The people implementing, learning, teaching, and sharing are doing real Lean. Show me, don’t just talk about it.
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Frequently Asked Questions
What is the podcast effect?
The podcast effect has two parts. One: the learn-teach-learn cycle. You implement, you teach what you learned, and then you know it better. Two: the sense of urgency it creates, which can be healthy (consistency) or unhealthy (false stress). Real Lean is implementing, learning, teaching, repeating.
Why do you say “show me” to critics?
Because critics don’t count. If someone criticizes your Lean implementation, ask them: “Show me yours.” If they haven’t implemented it themselves, their criticism is from the cheap seats. The people in the arena, implementing and learning, are doing real Lean. Not the people talking from the sidelines.
How do I know if I’m implementing or just consuming content?
Ask yourself: Did I try what I learned? If you read a book, did you implement it? If you watched a video, did you test it? If you listened to a podcast, did you apply it? Real Lean is implementing, not just consuming.
What’s the difference between healthy urgency and false urgency?
Healthy urgency drives consistency. It keeps you on track. False urgency is just a thought. It’s stress that doesn’t need to exist. It’s treating something as urgent when it’s not. Healthy urgency helps. False urgency harms. Know the difference.
Why don’t you trust people who’ve never implemented Lean but criticize it?
Because they’re not in the arena. They’ve never run a job, led a crew, or implemented a system. They’ve read books and pontificated. But real Lean is implementing, learning, teaching, repeating. Not reading and criticizing. Show me, don’t just talk about it.
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